I almost made roadkill out of raging Harley rider

"dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford" (dtg11) 09/29/2019 at 16:20 • Filed to: None

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A Harley rider did not appreciate my attempt to pass him, despite him going slow for quite some time. In turn, he cut me off and brake checked me, a 4000 lb car moving at 75 mph and accelerating. He best be glad I got new brakes in July, otherwise he’d be a nice paste in the middle of I-44.

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dogisbadob > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 16:25

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I guess he doesn’t know that BMW makes motorcycles too :p

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 16:33

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So...stupid question. If you had a dashcam to prove that you hit him from him brake-checking you, I would hope he would be considered at fault in any accident?

I know around where I live, it’s, sadly, a ‘if YOU hit IT, it’s your fault’ type scenario....

My X-type is too a real Jaguar > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 16:35

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What a dumbass

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 16:36

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In all honesty I probably would have tapped him, and then immediately regretted it. Kudos to you for taking the high road. Road raging on a bike seems incredibly stupid, you’re trying to intimidate someone yet the only thing stopping them from killing you is the fact they still value your dumb-ass life

BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 16:39

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Ah yes, I see the boomers are at it again.

gettingoldercarguy > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 16:42

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That guy is a dumbass who will die  soon on their own, no help needed from you.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 16:53

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I had a bro on a sport bike do this to me once in Sacramento California. it was all I could do to not rear end the motorcycle and spend the nex t three hours getting interviewed by CHP. I commend you for not turning them into  hamburger.

NKato > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 16:54

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I don’t think he would have the cojones to try that shite with my Crown Victoria. The pushbars are known to eat motorcyclists for breakfast.

That said, you have a clear shot of his license plate. Report him to the state patrol so that it’s on record if he does it again to someone else.

gmctavish needs more space > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 17:01

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I’ll never understand people’s trust in the general public to not kill them. He bet his life on you having good enough reaction time and brakes to not hit him, on top of assuming you’d actually try to stop. It’s similar to blindly jaywalking. 

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > gettingoldercarguy 09/29/2019 at 17:02

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I feel bad for whoever’s windshield and bumper he kills himself on. Hopefully they have a dashcam too. This video is a pretty good motivator to buy one...

I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 17:04

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I have my bike license but don’t own a bike and don’t intend to ride one. My general methodology when driving my cars is “drive like everyone around you is trying to kill you” as I don’t trust the crumple zones and airbags in any of my cars to do a damn thing in a crash. I see this guy also follows this methodology, but seeking a different outcome.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) 09/29/2019 at 17:04

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trust me, I thought about it but I also don’t feel like killing someone, at least not on a sunday

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 09/29/2019 at 17:04

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nope, insurance would side with me

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > NKato 09/29/2019 at 17:06

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I did call police, not sure what happened as they buggered off and I took an exit

Nibby > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 17:07

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M.T. Blake > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 17:12

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You’d be all good had you hit him. Video doesn’t lie. 

MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 17:14

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What am I saying, you’re right that would be murder, and  over nothing. 

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > MKULTRA1982(ConCrustyBrick) 09/29/2019 at 17:20

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exactly. Just brake and back off, no need to escalate the situation or help him achieve his goal of being another motorcycle safety statistic

slipperysallylikespenguins > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo 09/29/2019 at 17:20

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Yeah, fuck all those people born between 1944 and 1964.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > M.T. Blake 09/29/2019 at 17:22

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oh for sure, but it’s not worth it. Even if he ended up alive, that’s an insurance and possibly even lawsuit nightmare. 

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 17:26

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To me it looks like he’s moved over without looking and pooped himself when he realised you were there and tapped the brakes out of panic.

I think he’s just a shit rider

NKato > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 17:43

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File an incident report online with the State Patrol, and send them the video. They’ll at least have that on record if it happens again, is the point.

When I say "report" I don't mean call 911. I mean file something so it's in their database. 

Mercedes Streeter > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 18:01

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I’ve seen quite a few bikers brake check cars they think wronged them . He didn’t head check before drifting into the far left lane so I bet he didn’t see you until it was too late. So he’s a shite rider on top of being a dick.

I once had a Harley guy come up on me and brake check me for no reason. I was on an empty 6 lane superhighway and I was doing the speed limit in the second from the right lane. I was literally the ONLY car on the road. He came 4 lanes over from the left lane, passed me with just a few inches space, then brake checked me twice. Wtf!?

fintail > BlueMazda2 - Blesses the rains down in Africa, Purveyor of BMW Individual Arctic Metallic, Merci Twingo 09/29/2019 at 18:23

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Unfortunately, there seems to be a slightly younger shitbag demographic out there, maybe lagging boomers or Xers who didn’t conform.    You see it in political affiliation as well.

Nauraushaun > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 18:25

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I’m not sure that was a brake check, I’m not sure what that was. He doesn’t do much braking. It almost looks like he had no idea you were there, moved into the overtaking lane and accidentally(?) braked instead of accelerating.

I mean who’s dumb enough to brake check on a bike?

I call idiocy and ignorance over maliciousness but it’s a bit of a mystery to me.

VajazzleMcDildertits - read carefully, respond politely > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 18:35

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You are in the right for shure. I  have also experienced this several times, so I get it.

Eventually, I found my path was to buy a car that both speeds up and slows down fast enough to make this situation only appear rarely. 

That is a pretty costly path, though. And you still get cut off sometimes. 

Urambo Tauro > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 19:27

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If he wanted to be seen (which most riders would claim is important to them), he would have signaled.

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > I like cars: Jim Spanfeller is one ugly motherfucker 09/29/2019 at 21:10

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Hopefully it’s a truck with nice big brush guard, preferably lifted.

Manny05x > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 21:48

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I see harley riders do this all the time. Funny they are the ones wearing minimal gear.

TheRealBicycleBuck > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/29/2019 at 22:57

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I’m not sure what it is with Harley riders and their hatred of being passed. I’ve had several encounters like this, the most recent being today. Two Harley dudes were camping in the left lane. Three of us ended up passing them on the right. When I went by, one of them was crowding the center line so much that his handlebar and right foot were over the line. On my right was a Jersey barrier, so there was nowhere to go. I squeezed past anyway.

AdverseMartyr > Nauraushaun 09/30/2019 at 03:58

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No it looks like he did it on purpose, there’s a segment of morons who do that sort of thing to try and prove something and/or create space . From what I see in the video he was watching to his left in his mirror, and blocked dtg11. It’s the sort of behavior a certain type of rider will do to keep a gap for his buddies to merge through.

Only this time his buddy was smarter and not in a rush.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/30/2019 at 09:31

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99% sure he doesn’t do it on purpose. Seemed to me he wasn’t paying attention, went to downshift so he could accelerate but didn’t rev match properly which caused him to scrub speed, accidentally tapped his rear brake at the same time. Dude clearly rides like a bag of dicks and is 100% in the wrong, but I don’t think he maliciously brake checked you.

Edit: nevermind. Watched it again but with sound on and paid more attention. There was no shift there. And as the video ends he throws his hand up as if to flick you off? He’s definitely a malicious dick bag with a death wish.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > NKato 09/30/2019 at 11:16

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I gotcha. I’ll do that here soon, I wasn’t the only one he raged with while I was watching him. Dude obviously has issues and needs to be stopped before he kills himself or someone else.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/30/2019 at 11:16

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It’s southern Missouri, so that’s a very likely possibility 

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Nauraushaun 09/30/2019 at 11:18

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From how he continued to act after that, it was very intentional. Plus it’s more difficult to accidentally brake hard on a bike than a car  

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > TheRealBicycleBuck 09/30/2019 at 11:20

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Harley riders think they own the road and I have a feeling that their image is more to blame with the failing company than the cost of the bikes.

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > AMGtech - now with more recalls! 09/30/2019 at 11:22

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He flicked me off multiple times, tapped his brakes, and threw a Gatorade bottle at me. He also followed me and continued to harass me and other cars. Very intentional, he’s just angry that a college student in a 10 year old car is passing his big bad bike and even bigger ego

dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford > Mercedes Streeter 09/30/2019 at 11:23

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Harley riders have a propensity to road rage, it seems. I had something similar happen in STL, just without the brake check. 

NKato > RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars 09/30/2019 at 14:20

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Some states have  at-fault laws where rear ending someone is 100% the fault of the rear vehicle. The law was made long before dashcams existed, and was meant to emphasize driving safety. The flawed logic behind it posits that if a rear end accident occurs, the instigating driver was not paying attention or was otherwise negligent. The authors never once considered brake-checks.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > dtg11 - is probably on an adventure with Clifford 09/30/2019 at 15:21

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Fuck that guy. 

RallyDarkstrike - Fan of 2-cyl FIATs, Eastern Bloc & Kei cars > NKato 09/30/2019 at 16:58

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That’s sortof how things are considered here.